EP174 - Humility vs. Pride: The Lifelong Battle Every Leader Faces with Chad Veach
In this episode of Impact Driven Leader, Tyler Dickerhoof welcomes Chad Veach, the lead pastor at Zoe Church and author of books like, Help! I Work with People and Worried about Everything Because I Pray about Nothing, to explore one of the most challenging battles leaders face: the constant tug between pride and humility.
Chad shares personal stories about learning to "go low" and building a true legacy, offering insights on ego, self-awareness, and the power of embracing humility as a strength rather than a weakness. Through his own journey, Chad reveals how humility has allowed him to find purpose beyond self-promotion and lead others with empathy and authenticity.
Tune in as Chad and Tyler unpack why the real rewards of leadership—trust, impact, and legacy—come only when we learn to step out of the spotlight.
Meet Chad Veach
Chad Veach is the founder and lead pastor of ZOE Church in Los Angeles, California, a dynamic community in the heart of the Los Angeles. For the past 20 years he has dedicated his life to ministry and preaching the Gospel.
In addition to leading ZOE, he is an international speaker; the author of five books, I Bet You Think This Book is About You, Worried About Everything Because I Pray about Nothing, Help! I Work With People, Faith Forward Future and Unreasonable Hope; and the host of Leadership Lean In, a top charting leadership podcast.
Chad and his wife, Julia, reside in Los Angeles with their four children: Georgia, Winston, Maverick, and Clive.
IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
00:00 Intro
02:01 Leading with Less Ego
06:08 Balancing Pride and Humility
08:01 Recognizing Pride in Offense and Disagreements
09:46 Humility and Empathy
13:52 Insecurity and the Armor of Pride
15:53 Choosing Humility Over Pride in Leadership
19:31 Why Leaders Should Drop the “Tough” Act
23:59 True Leaders Seek Out Community and Accountability
27:55 How Humility Keeps Us Grounded and Present
32:24 Lead with Heart and Humility
35:06 The Humility Cycle
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The Impact Driven Leader Podcast, hosted by Tyler Dickerhoof, is for Xillennial leaders who have felt alone and ill-equipped to lead in today's world. Through inspiring interviews with authors from around the world, Tyler uncovers how unique leadership strengths can empower others to achieve so much more, with real impact.
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